Paul Ince In "The Big Read" Of 《4-4-2》
luyued 发布于 2011-05-28 20:58 浏览 N 次 《4-4-2》杂志“The Big Read”版块中对因斯的专访,我终于看到全文了。
哪天若有时间,也许会翻译。
Paul Ince
Paul Ince has landed the vacant managerial post at League Two promotion prospects MK Dons. We interviewed him back in 2004, and in a classic One-on-One, the Guv'nor answered your questions about his future management plans, as well as holding hands with Ryan Giggs...
What's that shirt business all about, pulling it on when you come out of the tunnel?
Dan Johnson, London
Before games you go out to warm-up, then come back to the dressing room for ten minutes to prepare for kick-off. The problem is, when you come back in you're sweating, so I wait until the very last minute before putting on my shirt so it's not covered in sweat. I did it for the first time at Man United and we won, then went on a good run, so I stuck with it.
Which of your former clubs do you have the most affection for?
Emma McAuley, Shepperton
Probably West Ham, because that's where I started. Then again, I also loved Inter Milan; the fans were great, so was the lifestyle. Liverpool fans were great to me, I still live near the city and they always come up and shake my hand. Middlesbrough fans were also great. It's just a shame the Man United situation turned sour.
Does it bother you that you don't get more respect from Man United fans for your contribution to one of their greatest ever sides?
Sarah Peters, Chester
It really annoys me. I gave six years of blood and sweat, and got cuts, bruises, scars for the cause. The club hadn't won the league for 26 years, but we did it - and the year before Sir Matt Busby died, God rest his soul. He wanted to see United win the league before he died and I was part of the team that gave that to him. It was the start of the dynasty. It's not all United fans, but once a few start something, it has a domino effect and you've got 40,000 singing about you.
When I go to Manchester, fans come up to me and say, "It's not me who sings about you." That can't be right. I never get any trouble from individuals, and that goes for West Ham fans too, but when they get in a crowd, they feel they have to go with the flow. United fans should be man enough to appreciate what I have done for their club.
How would you look back on your relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson and do you ever speak to him now?
Albert Manning, Altrincham
I'm not one to bear grudges. We all make mistakes. He's said some things about me that he shouldn't have. There was no need to call me a "Big-time Charlie". He should have more respect for me. If I saw him, of course I'd shake his hand and say hello. We haven't made up, because I feel I have nothing to make up for. Whether it was a tongue-in-cheek comment from him, I don't care. It stuck and I got a lot of crap for it. Funnily enough, I got a letter last week inviting me to his golf day, so maybe he's trying to make up with me. Am I going? Nah, sod that.
What was the story behind you posing in a United shirt while you were still a West Ham player?
Hugh Founder, Shamley Green
Let me put the record straight. My wife Claire and I were living in a house in Dagenham. I had just bought an XR3i cabriolet and parked it outside the house. The roof and wheels kept getting slashed, and the windows were smashed. At the end of the 1988-89 season I went to the West Ham manager John Lyall and said, "Look, no disrespect gaffer, but I'm getting my car trashed, so I need to get out of this house, and on the wages I'm on I haven't got enough money to move."
He could see what I was saying and sorted out a new contract. I'll tell you exactly how much it was for - lb1,100-a-week. It was all ready for me to sign when I came back for pre-season training. But while I'm on holiday, John got the sack and Lou Macari took over. I told Lou about the contract, but his exact words were: "At your age, you shouldn't be on that much money." I couldn't stay after that.
Man United then became interested, so I spoke to Alex Ferguson and the deal was close to being done. I then went on holiday, and my agent at the time, Ambrose Mendy, said it wasn't worth me coming back to do a picture in a United shirt when the deal was completed, so I should do one before I left.
This would be released when the deal was announced. Lawrence Luster of the Star took the picture and put it in his library. Soon after, their sister paper the Express were looking for a picture of me playing for West Ham, and found the one of me in the United shirt at the bottom of the pile. They published it and all hell broke loose.
I came back from holiday to discover West Ham fans were going mad. It wasn't really my fault. I was only a kid, I did what my agent told me to do, then took all the crap for it. The most annoying thing was Luster never had the balls to come out and say what had actually happened. He has killed me. If I ever see him again I'll give him a good hiding.
I went up to United, but then failed the medical, so I had to return to West Ham. I sat on the bench for a couple of games, but my wife was getting stick in the stands, so I thought, nah, I'm not having this! Alex Ferguson got in touch to tell me that he was resurrecting the deal and that he'd look after me. I have to thank him for that. That is the story, but God, all the crap I get from West Ham fans!
Do you think the West Ham fans will ever forgive you for your so-called crimes? Would you ever go to watch a game at Upton Park?
Tom Etherington, Surbiton
If you think about all those fans at Upton Park, they must have made a mistake and been forgiven. What do they get at games? About 25,000? I bet about 10,000 of the men have been unfaithful and asked for forgiveness from their wife. You have to forgive and forget. When I played for England against Italy in Rome, when we qualified for the 1998 World Cup, West Ham fans were probably standing by the bar saying, "There's our boy from the East End", but as soon as I came back I was still a Judas. I've held my hands up and told you the story as it happened. I'll be back at Upton Park this season, so we'll see, but I don't expect it to be any different. However, I still consider myself a West Ham boy. That is where I come from. That will never change.
Did you get the postcard I sent you in the summer of 1995 pleading with you not to leave Man United? Why did you ignore me?
Ben King, Brighton
Of course I got it. It's framed in my snooker room at home. It really wasn't my decision to leave. It was Alex Ferguson's decision because he had Nicky Butt coming through. One day I was playing golf with Giggsy when Ferguson turned up on the course and said, "Paul, we've accepted a bid from Inter Milan." What do you do? You know you haven't got a future, so you have to go. People have heard so many conflicting stories about me leaving Old Trafford, but that's the truth.
Was that 4-1 victory over Holland at Euro 96 as close as you got to footballing Utopia?
John Blockley, Bristol
I think so. That result shocked everyone. I seem to remember I got a penalty with a little bit of Incey magic! I enjoyed the game, but Terry Venables took me off with 20 minutes to go as I was suspended for the next game against Spain. Ah, what memories. When Teddy and Shearer were sticking them away, I remember thinking, "This can't be happening!" We had a great side and I thought we were going to win the whole thing. It went from one extreme to another; beating the Dutch 4-1 was wonderful, but losing to the Germans was horrible. That game against Holland and drawing 0-0 in Italy to qualify for the World Cup were my two favourite games.
Why didn't you take a penalty in the Euro '96 semi-final?
Steve Morgan, Portsmouth
To be fair, I was going to take a penalty. We were in the centre circle and I said to Bryan Robson, "I'll take one," and he replied, "OK, you're sixth.' I said, "Sixth? Who's fifth then?" He told me Gareth Southgate, so if he had scored I would have taken the next one. It was just the way it worked out. If Robbo had come to me before Gareth then I would have been in the Pizza Hut adverts!
Who is the best player you ever played with and against?
Barry Church, Cardiff
That's easy. The best player I have played with was Paul Gascoigne. He had everything. He was amazing. He's a lovely lad and it's nice to see him back in football now. And against? Roberto Mancini, when I was at Inter and he was at Sampdoria. He was simply awesome. I couldn't get anywhere near him! Cor, his skill and movement were amazing. In one game at the San Siro Roy Hodgson asked me to man-mark him, and he nutmegged me twice! I was eventually booked because all I could do was kick him!
As England's first black captain, what is your opinion on Ron Atkinson and what he said?
Ian Shroud, Wimbledon
It shouldn't matter if you're black, white or blue. Of course, I didn't agree with what he said, but I think we're all racist in our own little way. People say, "I hate the French" or "I hate the Spanish". As a TV pundit Ron has to be careful though. He did a lot for black players at West Brom, so I wouldn't point the finger and call him a racist. It was just a remark. I'm not going to make a big issue out of it. There are worse things happening in the world. Kids are starving in Third World countries.
Who is the best manager you've worked with?
Andy Bate, Leeds
Terry Venables. The way he simplified things for players was brilliant. He made players think they were better than they were. That is quite a skill. He was great for England, and look at what he did at Middlesbrough. We were in dire straits and he changed the whole feeling around the club. He cared about every player as an individual and you could see them blossom. We avoided relegation because he gave players belief. Technically, he was spot-on too.
Ferguson was not so much a coach, more a motivator. He commanded total respect. Let's be honest, we were all scared of him. It was real fear. You knew you couldn't take liberties with him. A lot of players didn't like him, but they respected him.
Have you ever sparred with Nigel Benn?
Richard Dye, London
Oh yes - when I was at West Ham years ago. He was probably a bit gentle with me. I wasn't bad, I got to practise my jabs and hooks. I used to box when I was a kid and had about seven fights for my youth club before I got in to football. Now Nigel is a DJ all over the world, so there isn't much chance to get in the ring with him again.
Who is the hardest player you have faced on the pitch?
Ray Southern, Kings Lynn
Marcel Desailly was pretty hard when I played against him in the Milan derby. Roy Keane too. He's a man's man. I have all the time in the world for Keaney. For some reason people think we don't get on, but we do. We both have respect for each other. When I see him we have a good chat. He's a top lad and I have nothing but admiration for him.
What was the deal with the "Guv'nor" nickname? How did you get it and is it true some of your team-mates at United refused to call you it?
Stevie Boyce, Salford
Nah, that's crap. I used to play snooker with my mates in Dagenham. When I hit a good shot, they used to shout, "Who's the Guv'nor?" at me. It's a local saying. Then at Man United one day we were doing shooting practice in training, and I hit a shot right in the top corner. Me being me, I shouted out, "Who's the Guv'nor?" and it stuck. I would say it when others scored a good goal too. Then all of a sudden Kiddo [Brian Kidd] called me "Guv", and that's how it started. It maybe went a bit over the top as all the fans started calling me it too, and I had it on my car too. It was a little phase I went through. I hate being called it now, though.
What did you think when you saw Cantona jump in the crowd at Selhurst Park? What do you remember about that night?
Freddie Halbert, Addiscombe
[Laughs] It was a bit of a silly sending off, wasn't it? The game then carried on and I remember standing in the centre of midfield and seeing all these players run past me to the touchline. I thought, "Fucking hell. What's going on here?" Then I looked over and saw all hell breaking loose, the fans were charging down the stands towards the players. As captain I ran over to keep the lads out of trouble. Everyone was goading each other, but then it finished.
After the game I'm sitting in the changing rooms when I'm told that the police want to speak to me about throwing a punch at someone in the crowd. It was supposed to have been at a bloke called Dennis something. He was a dustman I think. I ended up going to court and it was thrown out.
What type of guy was Eric Cantona? How did you get on with him and what is your best story about him?
Nick Malaperiman, Vancouver
Well, funnily enough, Eric and I stayed in a hotel together in Croydon for our court cases. On the morning, I put on my whistle and made sure I looked the nuts before going in to Eric's adjoining room. He was standing there looking at himself in the mirror with a bright shirt on, collars out to his shoulders and the buttons undone to show his chest. He looked like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever. I said, "Cants, you can't go to court looking like that." He said, "But Paul, this is me."
How good is your Italian? Give us a phrase...
Vernon Hook, Maidstone
My Italian is still OK. What does he want me to say? How about, Cosa fi la sera? [What are you doing tonight?]
What do you miss about the Italian lifestyle?
Sharon Harper, Leicester
The culture and the food. I even miss the training; their regimes were fantastic, it was the fittest I've ever been. I loved it over there.
What's is the biggest regret of your career?
Paul Hansford, Sydney
I came back from Italy too early. It wasn't a football decision, it was a family decision. My boy Thomas was about five and it was better if he went to a school in England. When I told the Inter president Massimo Moratti I was thinking about leaving, he couldn't believe it. The fans were gutted too, and put banners around the San Siro asking me to stay. Moratti pulled me in to his office and said, "Listen, Paul, we're going to sign Ronaldo for next season." It was so tempting. Moratti was desperate to win the Scudetto, and he thought with me and Ronaldo we could do it. Now I look back and they still haven't won it and Moratti has got loads of stick from the punters. I feel like I let him down, but I had to take the decision for my family.
Were you a 'Spice Boy' at Liverpool and is it fair to say Roy Evans didn't command the complete respect of the dressing room?
William Howard, Cardiff
Cheeky git! Firstly, I wasn't a Spice Boy. He can get that right out of his head! Even though a few of my friends like Jamie Redknapp, Jason McAteer and David James were, I certainly wasn't. And secondly, I'd say Roy Evans had the respect of the players. If you look at the time he was there, we finished third, third, fourth and fourth. Today, that is the equivalent of reaching the Champions League every season. Houllier probably got in the Champions League once after spending lb100 million, whereas Roy Evans never had that sort of money. Roy Evans did 10 times better with less money, so he must have been doing something right. We had a great team spirit under Roy, but then Houllier came in and bought a lot of foreign players and we lost it. Roy Evans had my respect, and I never saw any players disrespecting him.
How do you look back at your time with Liverpool and why did you leave so soon?
Eamon Clarke, Kirby
I enjoyed it there, and the fans were brilliant to me. I thought being a former Man United player might be a problem, but they were awesome. Things went well for me in my first two seasons, but then two days before pre-season training in the summer of 1999, Houllier told me completely out of the blue that he was buying Marc-Vivien Foe, God rest his soul, to replace me. Fair enough, if he had told me a month before, it gives me time to prepare myself and sort the kids and their schools out, but that was bang out of order. I had to go back and tell my wife, "Sorry, we're off again." The Foe deal fell through, and he got Didi Hamann from Newcastle. It was very disappointing to be treated like that. I never had any respect for Houllier after that.
How much did you enjoy scoring that equaliser at the Kop end for Liverpool against United in 1999?
Dave Hall, Liverpool
[Laughs] It was great, probably one of the best moments of my career, because of all the stick I got from United fans. You could see from my reaction how much pleasure I got from the goal.
If Liverpool played Man United in the Champions League final. Who would you want to win it?
Toby Harris, Altrincham
Liverpool. Nothing to do with the players, because Giggsy is still a really good mate of mine, but because of the way I have been treated by United fans, and some of things Ferguson has come out with, like "Big-time Charlie". What bollocks. That was uncalled for. For the United fans to jump on my back because I signed for Liverpool is ridiculous. When I came back from Inter Milan, United actually had first option on me, but they didn't take it. What was I meant to do? I wasn't going to turn Liverpool down.
I heard something about you smuggling cheeseburgers in to Italy. What's that all about?
Steve Downes, Sheffield
We used to live on Lake Como, which was about ten minutes from Switzerland and 30 minutes from Milan. There was a McDonald's just over the border, so when we fancied a burger it was quicker going to Switzerland than Milan. I had to take my passport to get a Big Mac! To begin with I got stopped by customs officials at the border all the time, who checked my car and thought it was strange I kept going over, but after they realised what I was doing they used to wave me through. The kids wanted cheap burgers, rather than pasta and all the good stuff so we used to go once a week!
Is it true you're a nervous flyer and used to hold hands with Ryan Giggs on flights? Ever felt like doing a Dennis Bergkamp and giving them up all together?
Mike Hinshelwood, Kent
[Laughs] Where do you get these questions from? Giggsy, probably. I do hate flying. I did sit with Giggsy as he was even more scared of it than me. I felt better just looking at him! He goes white and starts sweating. It's true, he used to grip my hand. Let's get this straight, he's holding on to my hand, not the other way around! But though I might hate flying, I could never opt out of it. It is part of my job and you can't afford not to play in the big games.
What went through your mind after your penalty miss against Argentina in the 1998 World Cup?
Gillian Shapcott, West Midlands
They had already missed a penalty, so I thought, 'It's alright, we'll still win this.' But I also felt like I had let everybody down, and worst of all, my son Thomas. He was sitting in the stands with my wife, and I knew when I was walking back to the centre circle he would be crying his eyes out. It was the worst feeling in the world.
At the end of the play-off final between Wolves and Sheffield United, you made gestures of smoking, drinking and money! What was that all about?
Greg Richards, via e-mail
Ian Wright is a good friend of mine and he was at the game. I spoke to him before and told him I felt confident about winning, and that afterwards we would have a good party with a nice glass of champagne and a cigar. So when we did win, I looked up at him in the stands and made those gestures.
What's the funniest practical joke you've seen or been involved in?
Scott Riches, Leyton
It involved Gazza, of course! We were away with England in Moldova and as I was climbing over a wall at the stadium the day before the game, Gazza pulled my tracksuit bottoms down in front of loads of photographers. I'm gonna get him back for that, I tell you! Glenn Hoddle didn't see the funny side of it, whereas we were laughing our heads off.
How many seasons do you think you have left in you and are you interested in becoming a manager? Which of your former clubs would you most like to do i
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